Leica CL
by Karen Nakamura
Overview and Personal Comments
I've fallen in love with Leica screw-mount and M mount cameras. I decided to switch from my 1950s screw mount Canon P to a more contemporary Leica M-bayonet system. I have over a dozen LSM and M lenses. Along the way, I picked up two Leica CLs. Using the text, charts, or images on this website without permission on an ebay auction or any other site is a violation of federal law.
The Leica CL was made between 1973-1976 as a result of a cooperative venture between Leitz and Minolta Camera*. Leitz designed the camera and Minolta manufactured it. In the U.S. and Europe, it was sold as the Leica CL. In Japan it was sold as the Leitz Minolta CL and Minolta CL. It was very popular ... rumor has it that the CL was too popular (over 65,000 made) and was beginning to undersell the Leica M4 and M5 cameras which costed twice as much, so Leica pulled the plug on the CL. That's unfortunate because it was a great camera.
* Leitz and Minolta also cooperated in designing and making the Leica R3, Leica's first electronic SLR. Of course, many people say the electronic R3 was the beginning of the end and the Leicaflex SL2 was the best manual SLR that ever came out. Leica never regained their trust until the return of the all-mechanical Leica R6.2 SLR.
Five years later, Minolta came out with an improved CL and named it the CLE. That's a great camera that I'd like to get sometime. The CLE is a bit bigger, has a slightly wider rangefinder baselength (more accurate focusing), more reasonable framelines, and most importantly: auto-exposure. It's also very expensive ($600-$800 on the used market) and very few people can repair a CLE and many are now approaching the end of their lifespans.
Back to our story: the CL is very compact. The strap lugs are both on the left side, which means the camera hangs vertically. It only works with shorter lenses as longer lenses cause it to "flop." All in all, I like the vertical strap format, it makes the CL feel like a little point and shoot, but it takes stellar M lenses and is a fully-coupled rangefinder.
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The CL is pictured above is with a Canon 35mm f/2 lens. This is a very nice shooter combination. The 35mm has enough depth of field that the CL's small baselength is not a problem. The CL doesn't have 35mm framelines, you kind of have to extrapolate from the 40mm framelines.
The standard CL lens combination is the 40mm f/2 Summicron-C and 90mm f/4 Elmar. The 40mm is wide-enough for most photos and the 90mm is lightweight and sharp. The 90mm pictured below is actually the 90mm f/4 M-Rokkor, which was made by Leitz for Minolta. Using the text or images on this website without permission on an ebay auction or any other site is a violation of federal law.
Interesting quirks
The CL was designed by Leica and manufactured by Minolta. Instead of Leica's signature horizontal travelling cloth focal plane shutter, the CL uses a vertical travel cloth shutter. This allows for the body to be more compact and for a faster 1/60 sec flash sync (vs the 1/50 sec on the Leica M bodies). The shutter is entirely mechanical, the battery is only needed for the meter.
The shutter speed dial is unique and positioned on the front of the camera. It allows for quick shutter speed changes with the right index finger. The shutter speed also appears in the finder display, which is very handy. Using the text or images on this website without permission on an ebay auction or any other site is a violation of federal law.
The analog match-needle metering is visible in the viewfinder along with the current shutter speed. What is annoying is that the meter is "upside down" compared to other meters, such as the Asahi Pentax Spotmatic. With the CL, above the center line is underexposure and below the line is overexposure, the opposite of everyone else.
The cloth shutter is susceptible to getting pinholes burned in it by an uncapped lens in bright sunlight. Keep your lens capped when not in use. The M series cameras are silent except for the slightest swoosh sound. The CL is louder than an M camera. It's still much quieter than most SLRs but it's still a louder 'clatch' sound. I'd like to compare it against a Cosina Voigtlander Bessa R sometime. The wind lever of the CL has the signature Leica buttery feel. Using the text or images on this website without permission on an ebay auction or any other site is a violation of federal law.
One of the things I enjoy the most about the M series Leicas is that the frameline selector falls right where your left index finger would be when gripping the camera. This allows you to quickly preview other lens choices. Unfortunately, the CL doesn't have a frameline selector and only has framelines for 40mm, 50mm, and 90mm. The 40mm frame is always visible.
Compact 35mm full-frame cameras of the 1970s
How do you make a Leica CL feel absolutely huge? Pair it against other compact 35mm full-frame cameras of the 1970s: the Petri Color 35, the Rollei 35, and the Olympus XA. Granted, only the Olympus XA has a coupled-rangefinder, but you can see how camera manufacturers were engaged in an "arms war" to produce the smallest, most compact camera possible. See my Petri Color 35 page for more about the arms war.
Technical Details
Camera Name
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Bessa R2 | Hexar RF | Leica CL Leica Minolta CL Minolta CL |
Minolta CLE |
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Manufacturer
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Voigtlander Cosina | Hexar |
Minolta
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Place of Manufacture
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Japan | Japan |
Japan
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Date of Manufacture
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2002~ | 1999~ | 1973-1976 | 1981.2-1984.12 |
Focusing System
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Coupled rangefinder .68x magnification factor 36mm base length 24.28 effective baselength Parallax compensation 35/50/75/90 selectable framelines |
Coupled rangefinder .60x magnification factor 68.5mm base length 41.10 effective baselength Parallax compensation 28/35/50/75/90/135mm. selectable framelines |
Coupled rangefinder |
Coupled rangefinder |
Lens Mount
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Leica M bayonet mount compatible
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Shutter
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Vertical metal focal plane 1 sec - 1/2000 sec + B & X (1/125sec) |
Vertical metal focal plane |
Vertical cloth focal plane 1/2 sec - 1/1000 sec + B & X (1/60sec) |
Vertical metal focal plane |
Metering System
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TTL manual EV 1~19 |
TTL manual and AE EV 1~18 |
TTL manual EV 3~18 |
TTL manual and AE |
Flash
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External hot shoe PC cable connector on left side 1/125 sec X flash sync |
External hot shoe PC cable connector on left side 1/125 sec X flash sync |
External hot shoe
1/50 sec X flash sync |
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Film type
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Type 135 film (35mm standard) |
Type 135 film (35mm standard) ISO 25-5000 |
Type 135 film (35mm standard)
ISO 25-1600 |
Type 135 film (35mm standard)
ISO xx-xx |
Battery type
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2 x 1.5V SR44 | 2 x 3V CR2 |
1 x 1.35V PX625 |
2 x LR44/SR44 |
Dimensions and weight
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135.5 x 81 x 33.5mm 425g |
139.5 x 80.0 x 35.0mm 560g |
121x76x32 mm, 365g w/ Summicron-C 40 mm 510g |
124.5 x 77.5 x 32mm |
Retail price
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~$500 new | ~$1000 new w/ Hexanon 50 f/2 | Leica Minolta CL ¥65,000 |
¥94,000 |
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About Leitz/Leica
Leitz was originally a microscope and scientific optics company. The first series of screwmount Leicas were designed by Oskar Barnack and have been named Barnack cameras by some. The prototype Ur-Leica was designed in 1918, but mass production did not start until 1925 when the Leica I came out. I have a write-up of the Leica III (1933).
The Leica M3 rangefinder was released in 1954 and represented the end of the Barnack-series of screwmount Leicas. The M-series had an integrated viewfinder/rangefinder with automatically switching projected framelines, coincident and split-image rangefinder, lever wind, hinged rear door, integrated shutterspeed dial, and M-bayonet mount. I have write-ups of the M3 (1954), M2 (1957), MD (1963), and M7 (2002). The Leica CL (1973) is technically not an M-Leica but it uses the M-bayonet mount.
The design of the Leica M has not changed considerably since the M3 of 1954. In 1967, the M4 came out with a crank-rewind instead of a knob rewind. Since then, the M series remained essentially unchanged from the Leica M4 (1968) up to the current M7. The only difference is that the M7 has an electronically controlled shutter and automatic exposure metering. (This leaves out the fiasco of the M5 which was considerably different and considerably unpopular at the time).
Leica's single-lens reflex (SLR) cameras have not been as popular as their rangefinders. I have write-ups of the original Leicaflex SL camera as well as the newer R3 and R6 SLRs and the R-mount lenses.
Leitz... blah blah.... and in 2000, fashion conglomerate Hermes bought 31% of Leica's stock. The only tangible result of this has been the emergence of the Hermes Special Edition Leica MP, dressed in the best coach leather and costing a mere US$8000.
On the Net
Japanese Pages:
Leica LSM to M Mount Adaptors
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Hello Karen,
I just found your brilliant site a few days ago when searching for
information about the Leica CL.
Thanks a lot for sharing all this great information and knowledge about
photography!
From your site it seems that you use the CL a lot. I am considering
buying one of these old cameras so that I can use lenses from the
M-range in stead of my old Leica R3.
Your article on the CL seems to be a few years old and I would like to
ask you if you still use the CL frequently and what you think of it
compared to a used M camera which would be the alternative to a CL,
albeit costlier.
I do like Leica cameras and film, but I am not a collector and I also
use digital. I want the CL for travel and hobby photography - and maybe
later upgrade to a used M or to a digital M if one day I win the
lottery:-)
The Leica factory has informed me that they are still able to service
the CL, so maintenance should not be a problem - at least for now.
I would be grateful for a piece of advice on the CL: Do you still regard
it a satisfying and practical entry to the M system, or would an old M
camera be better in terms of usability?
(I am aware of the Minolta CLE, but it seems to be harder to get and to
service than the CL.)
Thanks again.
Best regards,
Jens T
I was perusing your web site and found it interesting. I am also a "film" guy - my preferred cameras are a Leica M6 and various Hasselblad 5xx cameras. My Nikon D90 works ok for indoor flash photography of my 4 year old when he is moving about but for thinking/creative pictures I prefer film.
I also have a Leica CL - nice camera but the meters in them can be very finicky (especially with age as the CDS meter cells go bad) and difficult to repair (requires special expertise). I was reading your comments regarding camera repair. I have found Sherry Krauter to be very good with the Leica CL's. She also reconditioned a M3 body that I purchased for $300 into a very nice camera. She was recommended to me by Jim Lager back when he worked at Ken Hansen Photographic in NYC.
Thanks for the good work on your web site.
Mark W
Hello Karen, I wanted to express my appreciation for your site. I can't believe how often I refer to it for camera reviews. It seems whenever I want to read up about a camera, you will have reviewed it. I enjoy your writing and take on things.
I just recently got fixated on the Leica CL and lo and behold you have a new review for it! I have a Bessa T, but the external leica viewfinder kept falling off and finally broke so I can't see what I am shooting. I definitely want a coupled rangefinder in the near future. I cannot likely afford a Leica M, but recently started looking into the CL or a Bessa R2.
I wonder how loud the CL's shutter is? The shutters on the Voigtlander Bessa cameras are very loud and I can understand how some people give up on their Bessas because of it. I have lost shots because the noise startled animals.
Even a bear got freaked out and took off while I was shooting from an upstairs window at least 60 feet away.
Thanks, Heather
Hi Heather -
I'm not sure if I'd recommend a CL these days as they're hard to fix. A used M3/M4 is cheap enough (comparatively) that you should perhaps just go for one of those instead. If you search really hard, you can get one for around $300, which is around how much you'd pay for a CL.
Do other people have any suggestions?
Karen