Other Classic Camera Lens Mounts
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Contax
/ Nikon RF Bayonet Mount
Nikon F/Ai SLR Bayonet Mount
Pentax Screw
Mount (M42)
Leica Screw Mount (M39)
Leica R Mount SLR Lenses
by Karen Nakamura
My Leica R Lens Collection 35mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R (1st; 2-cam) |
While the Leica screw-mount and M bayonet mount rangefinder lenses are familiar to most camera collectors, Leitz also produced a wide range of lenses for its single lens reflex cameras. These cameras have a long history, starting out with the original Leicaflex , the auto-exposure R3, the famous all-mechanical R6, and continuing on to the current Leica R9 which accommodates an 11-megapixel digital back.
With the exception of auto-focus, the Leica SLR system is just as advanced as their equivalents from Canon or Nikon. However, because Leica always stood for precision, ruggedness, reliability, and mechanical perfection above everything, they never went towards the lightweight plastics and looser focusing tolerances that auto-focus cameras entailed. Thus, all Leica R lenses are manual focus only. For the same reasons, Leica has not produced as many zoom lenses as its Japanese competitors. In fact, a couple of Leitz's SLR zooms are actually Minolta designs. Ask around, it's easy to find out which.
Leica R Lenses
For the most part, R lenses are interchangeable with any age Leica SLRs. Except for the newest ROM lenses which should not be used on Leicaflex cameras, at most you lose the ability to matrix meter, or to meter at full aperture (stop-down metering only).
There are some series variations in Leica R-Mount lenses:
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Exhibit A: Overview of cams #1-#3
Exhibit B: Exploded view of 3rd cam Thanks to reader Ken O'Kelley for supplying this photo! |
Leicaflex | SL | SL2 | R3-R7 | R8-R9 | +Digital Back | |
1-cam | O | ST | ST | ST | NR | |
2-cam | O | O | O | ST | NR | |
3-cam | O | O | O | O | O | |
R-only | X | X | X | O | O | |
ROM | X | X | X | O | O | |
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Key: O=fully compatible; X=won't mount; ST=stop-down
metering;
NR=Not Recommended (may damage ROM contacts)
Upgrading older lenses / Using adapters
Although older lenses were originally made with 1- or 2-cams, Leica offered an upgrade service to bring them up to 3-cams (you can also modify a R-only or ROM-only lens backwards to 3-cam as well, although you lose the ROM contacts if you do this). So just because a lens has 3-cams doesn't mean that it is a second-generation lens. You have to use other factors in determining the lens version such as the distinct profile of each version, the serial number, the presence or absence of a built-in lens hood; or the weight.
Many people use their Leica R lenses on Canon SLRs (including digital SLRs such as the Canon EOS 20D) with an adapter that is widely available (see CameraQuest.com for a source in the USA). I use my EOS with the Hansa adapter which I bought in Japan (picture right). Many people are also using these Leica R lenses with Micro-FourThirds (MFT) and Four-Thirds digital cameras from Panasonic and Olympus.
If you have an adapter, it does not matter if you have 1, 2, 3, or ROM cams on your R lens if you are using it on another camera system since you will always be shooting using open-aperture metering. The system works fantastically well. I have some photographs using the 180mm Elmarit on my gallery page.
In order for an adapter to work, there are two factors. The first is the body "lens registration" distance or the distance from the lens mount to the film surface. The second is the mount "throat size" or the diameter of the mount. For an adapter to slip in between the body and lens of differing manufacturers, the registration distance of the lens must be greater than the registration distance of the body; and the throat-size of the lens must be smaller than the throat size of the body mount.
Year | Type | Registration | Throat Size | |
Micro FourThirds (MFT) | 2008 | B9+11e | 20.0mm | 44mm |
Leica M Bayonet | 1955 | B4 | 27.80mm | 44mm |
Leica Screw Mount | S | 28.80 | 39mm | |
Contax G1/G2 | B | 29.00 | ||
Contax RF | 34.85 | |||
Olympus Pen F | 28.95 | |||
Canon FD/FL | Br | 42.00 | ||
Minolta MD | 43.50 | |||
Canon EF | B | 44.00 | ||
M42 (pentax, etc.) | S | 45.46 | ||
Contax/Yashica | 45.50 | |||
Olympus OM | 46.00 | |||
Nikon F | B | 46.50 | ||
Leica R | 1964 | B3 | 47.00 | |
Tamron T Mount | 55.00 | |||
Tamron T2 Adaptall | 55.00 | |||
Hasselblad V-System (500/200) | B | 74.90 | ||
Kiev 88 | S | 82.10 | ||
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For further information, see:
There are some web pages that describe the cam issue very graphically and succintly. See the bottom of this page for links.
Leica R SLR Mount Lenses
Wide-Angle Lenses
The only wide-angle R lens that I have is the first generation 35mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R, which was originally released in 1964 for the Leicaflex. Mine is the first version 7-element in 5-group lens with 2-cams for the Leicaflex SL. The contrast on this is rather low and it flares out pretty easily. A hood is essential.
The 35mm Elmarit-R was recomputed in 1973, gaining a group (7 elements in 6 groups) and contrast is much higher. This version apparently has excellent close-up performance, even surpassing the 35mm Summicron-R.
I believe the 3rd version is optically identical to the 2nd, but it features a built-in hood and standard filter thread (E55).
Technical Details-Leica R Mount Wide Angle Lenses
Manufacturer |
Leitz | Leitz | Leitz |
---|---|---|---|
Lens |
35mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R 1st version (11101) |
35mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R 2nd version (11201) |
35mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R 3rd version (11231) |
Serial
# |
~2517850 | 2517851-2928900 | 2928901~ |
Place
of Manufacture |
Germany |
Germany | |
Date
of Manufacture |
1964-74 | 1974-79 | 1979~ |
Lens
Construction |
7 elements in 5 groups
|
7
elements in 6 groups |
|
Lens
Mount |
Leica R Bayonet (1, 2, & 3 cam) |
Leica R Bayonet 3-cam | Leica R Bayonet 3-cam |
Focusing
range |
0.3
meter - infinity |
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Apertures |
f/2.8
~ f/22 (half-stops) |
f/2.8
~ f/22 (half-stops) |
f/2.8
~ f/22 (half-stops) |
Filter
Mount |
Filter: Series VI Hood: 12564 |
Filter: Series VII Hood: 12509 |
Filter: E55 mm Hood: Built-in |
Dimensions (D x L mm) and weight |
63mm x 44mm 400 grams |
63mm x 40mm 410 grams |
66mm x 41.5mm 305 grams |
Retail
price |
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Leica R Mount Normal Lenses
My Leicaflex SL came with the first generation 50mm f/2 Summicron-R. Mine is the late first version 6 element / 5 group lens with 3-cams for the Leica R3-R7. The Summicron is of course famous for being one of the best standard lenses in existence and it lives up to its reputation. It's also one of the most reasobly priced Leica R lenses, with good examples costing less than $300.
I also bought the 60mm f/2.8 Macro-Elmarit-R recently to go with my Leica R6. As long as you can live with its relatively dark f/2.8 maximum aperture, the Macro-Elmarit is a wonderful all-round lens that can go down to 1:2.5x magnification or 30cm. It's great for daytime street photography because you can literally photograph anything you see, from small found objects to improptu portraiture.
Technical Details-Leica R Mount Normal Lenses
Manufacturer |
Leitz | Leitz | Leica | Leica |
---|---|---|---|---|
Lens |
50mm f/2 Summicron-R 1st Version (11228) |
50mm f/2 Summicron-R 2nd Version (11215) |
50mm f/1.4 Summilux-R 1st version (11875) |
50mm f/1.4 Summilux-R 2nd version (11777 |
Serial
# |
~2777650 | 2777651~ | ~2806500 | 2806501~ |
Place
of Manufacture |
Germany |
Germany |
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Date
of Manufacture |
1964-76 | 1976 | 1969 | 1979~ |
Lens
Construction |
6 elements in 5 groups
|
6 elements in 4 groups | 7 elements
in 6 groups |
|
Lens
Mount |
Leica R Bayonet (1, 2, & 3 cam) |
Leica R Bayonet 3-cam & ROM |
Leica R Bayonet (2 & 3 cam) |
Leica R Bayonet 3 cam |
Focusing
range |
0.5
meter - infinity |
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Apertures |
f/2
~ f/16 (half-stops) |
f/2
~ f/22 (half-stops) |
f/1.4
~ f/16 (half-stops) |
|
Filter
Mount |
Filter: Series VI Hood: 12564 |
Filter: E55 Hood: Built-in |
Filter: Series VII Hood: 12508 |
Filter: E55 Hood: Built-in |
Dimensions (D x L mm) and weight |
63mm
x 38.5 mm 330 grams |
66mm
x 41mm 290 grams |
67mm x 47mm 450 grams |
66.5mm x 50.6mm 400 grams |
Retail
price |
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Manufacturer |
Leitz | Leica | Leica | Leica |
---|---|---|---|---|
Lens |
60mm f/2.8 Macro-Elmarit-R 1st Version |
60mm f/2.8 Macro-Elmarit-R 2nd Version |
50mm f/1.4 Summilux-R 1st version (11875) |
50mm f/1.4 Summilux-R 2nd version (11777 |
Serial # |
~3013651 | 3013651~ | ~2806500 | 2806501~ |
Place of Manufacture |
Germany |
Germany |
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Date of Manufacture |
1972 | 1969 | 1979~ | |
Lens Construction |
6 elements in 5 groups Modified Gauss |
7 elements in 6 groups |
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Lens Mount |
Leica R Bayonet (2& 3 cam) |
Leica R Bayonet 3-cam & ROM |
Leica R Bayonet (2 & 3 cam) |
Leica R Bayonet 3 cam |
Focusing range |
0.27 meter - infinity |
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Apertures |
f/2.8 ~ f/22 (half-stops) |
f/1.4 ~ f/16 (half-stops) |
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Filter Mount |
Filter: Series VIII/E60 Hood: 12514 |
Filter: Series VII/E55 Hood: Built-in |
Filter: Series VII Hood: 12508 |
Filter: E55 Hood: Built-in |
Dimensions (D x L mm) and weight |
70mm x 67 mm 390 grams |
67.5mm x 62.4mm 400 grams |
67mm x 47mm 450 grams |
66.5mm x 50.6mm 400 grams |
Retail price |
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Leica R Mount Telephoto and Super-Tele Lenses
My Leicaflex SL kit came with the Leica Elmarit-R 135mm f/2.8. This was a second-version lens with 3-cams for the entire R-series. It was made in Canada rather than Germany like the first-version. Only collectors care where their lenses were made, the Canadian lenses are just as good as their German brethren.
The one problem with the 135mm Elmarit is that its minimum focus is 1.5 meters (5 feet). It'd be nice if it came a bit closer for portrait work.
Technical Details-Leica R Mount Telephoto Lenses
Manufacturer |
Leitz | Leitz | Leitz |
---|---|---|---|
Lens |
90mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R
First Version (11229) |
90mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R Second Version (11239) |
90mm f/2 Summicron-R Second Version (11219) |
Serial
# |
~280900 | 2770951 | |
Place
of Manufacture |
Germany |
Canada | Canada |
Date
of Manufacture |
1964-77 | 1977-83 | 1976-86 |
Lens
Construction |
5 elements
in 4 groups |
5 elements in 4groups | |
Lens
Mount |
Leica R Bayonet (1, 2, & 3 cam) |
Leica R Bayonet 3-cam | Leica R Bayonet ROM/3-cam |
Focusing
range |
0.7 meter
- infinity |
2 meter - infinity |
|
Apertures |
f/2.8
~ f/22 (half-stops) |
f/2
~ f/16 (half-stops) |
|
Filter
Mount |
Filter: Series VII (pre-2809001) Filter: E55 (post-2809001) Hood: Built-in |
Filter: E55 Hood: Built-in |
|
Dimensions (D x L mm) and weight |
65mm x 72mm 500 grams |
67mm x 57mm 450 grams |
69mm x 61mm 520 grams |
Retail
price |
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Manufacturer |
Leitz | Leitz | |
---|---|---|---|
Lens |
135mm
f/2.8 Elmarit-R First Version (11111) |
135mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R Second Version (11211) |
|
Serial
# |
~2772618 | ||
Place
of Manufacture |
Germany |
Canada | |
Date
of Manufacture |
1964-68 | 1968-76 | |
Lens
Construction |
5 elements
in 4 groups |
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Lens
Mount |
Leica R Bayonet (1, 2, & 3 cam) |
Leica R Bayonet 3-cam | |
Focusing
range |
1.5
meter - infinity |
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Apertures |
f/2.8
~ f/22 (half-stops) |
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Filter
Mount |
Filter: Series VII Filter: E55 Hood: Built-in |
Filter: E55 / Series VII Hood: Built-in |
|
Dimensions (D x L mm) and weight |
65mm x 91mm 660 grams |
67mm
x 93mm 730 grams |
|
Retail
price |
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Leica R Mount Super-Tele Lenses
I mainly use the Leica Elmarit-R 180mm f/2.8 on my Canon EOS 10D. It's designed for the Leicaflex / R series of cameras but can mount to EOS using an adapter. It's of course manual focus and of course you have to meter open and stop-down manually, but it's not as difficult as it sounds. The quality of the first version is very good, although not as stellar as current lenses that have aspherical elements or ultra-low dispersion glass. The first version is also very heavy, weighing about 1.3 kilograms. My one only has two cams. Nonetheless, it gives a nice classic look to portraits. The second version is much lighter at 810 grams. If you want the absolute in sharpness (especially in the corners), get the second version or the astonishingly expensive APO third version.
Technical Details-Leica R Mount Super-Telephoto Lenses
Manufacturer |
Leitz | Leitz | Leica |
---|---|---|---|
Lens |
180mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R | 180mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R Second Version |
180mm f/2.8 Apo-Elmarit-R |
Serial
# |
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Place
of Manufacture |
Germany |
Germany | |
Date
of Manufacture |
1968 | 1980 | 1998 |
Lens
Construction |
5 elements
in 4 groups |
7 elements in 5 groups | |
Lens
Mount |
Leica R Bayonet (1, 2, & 3 cam) |
Leica R Bayonet 3-cam | Leica R Bayonet ROM/3-cam |
Focusing
range |
2 meter - infinity |
1.8 meter - infinity |
2 meter - infinity |
Apertures |
f/2.8
~ f/16 (half-stops) |
f/2.8
~ f/22 (half-stops) |
f/2.8
~ f/22 (half-stops) |
Filter
Mount |
Filter: Series VIII Hood: Built-in |
Filter: Series VIII / 67 Hood: Built-in |
Filter: 67mm Hood: Built-in |
Dimensions (D x L mm) and weight |
78mm x 134mm 1325 grams |
75mm x 121mm 810 grams |
76mm x 132mm 970 grams |
Retail
price |
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Hi Karen,
Today I came across your site on Leica R lenses and found your hands-on information was very useful. I hope you dont mind as I will be contacting you more on this subject.
I have been intested in Leica R lenses for some time but have been very concerned about metering and compatibility with the Canon dSLR bodies. Over this past weekend, I accidently found an adaptor that can meter as well as....able to provide Aperture function. I can see the adaptor manufacturers have matured a fair bit since few years ago. So, here I am, typing this email to you.
For starter, I am thinking to buy the 35mm F2.8 or the Elmarit. I see the item in you site as part of your discussion/experience. I believe this is a very reasonable lens for the price and performance. The Summilux and Sumilicon are lot more expensive and I dont think I am ready to take the high road at this time.
I do have some hands-on experiences with "manual focus-prime" lens with Nikon cameras. However, late last year, I made a switch to Canon. Currently, I am using 450D which I like it very much because of its size and performance.
I have written a lot for my first inquiry. For now, can you briefly share some of your hands-on experiences with using Leica lenses on Canon bodies. What were some of the suprises for both good and bad. Thank you for your time in advance and look forward to hear from you.
Regards,
Anthony
Hi Karen,
Thanks for the excellent site! I noticed an error in the Leica-R table for
the Summicron 90/2.
http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/index-frameset.html?Lens-R.ht
ml~mainFrame
The table says:
f/2.8 ~ f/22 (half-stops)
x aperture blades
It should say:
f/2 ~ f/16
8 aperture blades
I'll let you know in a few weeks if it has half-stops, as I'll probably buy
one when I'm the States over New Years Day.
Jim
Fixed! -- Karen
Hello, Karen
Was searching technical data about my lens and came over your page on the
web.
You mention 3 versions of the Elmarit R 35mm 2.8.
My lens has the serial number 3299xxx.
It is made in Germany and it’s a E55.
Meassures are 63 x 49.7 mm
Weigt: 310 g without caps.
Built in hood.
It looks like my lens is a mix between Vers II and III.
Could you tell anything about these differences?
Best Regards
Øystein D.
Norway
Dear Karen (if I may),
I’ve been enjoying navigating your photoethnography site, which I
originally visited searching for information on the Leicaflex and,
particularly, compatible lenses. I don’t know if you take the time to
answer equipment questions, but on the chance that you do, here goes:
I’m considering buying a Leicaflex (Mark II). I’m not a collector, but have been using an M2 and an M6 (my only cameras) for years, and thought I’d expand to SLR the old Leica way. Here’s the question, which I think you answer on your site, but am not sure: will *any *R lens (other than the new ROM models) be compatible with the Mark II? I’d like to buy an Elmarit 90mm, but the reference to 3-cam concerns me, since the original Leicaflex lenses were I believe 1 cam.
With apologies for so many words, and gratitude for any direction you have the time to provide,
Best wishes,
Paul
Dear Paul -
Yup, there should be no problem. It's on the ROM lenses that are problematic, and they are designed to not mount on older Leicaflexes anyway.
I'd personally recommend the R6.2 myself....
Karen